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Post by schrodinger on Jun 22, 2009 1:08:49 GMT 8
So yeah. This isn't the first time people have made ILLEGAL MOVES in the RP, but I certainly hope it's the last. If we're going to get the story moving in any coherent way, there needs to be a way for the players to come to a consensus as to what each person will be doing, and what the outcomes of those actions will be. We don't want any incidents of people attacking the police or entire nations and then getting retroactively redlighted by the moderators. No more trainwreck mass fights, either. Whenever either of those things occurs, the moderators need to step in, and it's never pretty. Moderators (you know who you are), you've got to be on the ball, too. If someone wants to do something you think is batshit insane, don't let them do it and then punish them for it! It leaves a bad taste in everyone's mouth (if you know what I mean). Prevention's always better than cure (again, iykwim), and if batshit insanity can be addressed ahead of time, and actually moderated before it gets posted up there and someone has to send a Guardian up someone else's ass, that's best for everyone involved. It'd be great if we all intuitively knew how best to develop the story, and we could post accordingly, but that's apparently not the case. This is the next best thing to having MSN mass convos. What you do ('you' being everyone who posts in the RP): Post here, OOC, and make sure everyone has a good idea of what you plan to do in the RP. It's much easier to organise cooperative efforts and awesome feats like this, rather than posting wildly and hoping it all works out.
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Post by RaineScarlet on Jun 22, 2009 14:04:27 GMT 8
Personally, I don't mind this idea, simply because Sierra's intentions are very obvious already (so I don't have much typing to do, hohoho). Other than that, I guess I'll give my entire opinion about it.
Pros -Yes, it can prevent things from getting messy. People are a bit all over the place sometimes. -People will know what to expect, where to go next. May prevent lapses of activity.
Cons -People will be lazy and not post. Probably obvious, eh? XD -Eliminate the freedom of the RP flow. The element of surprise. Yes, freedom can lead to messy places, but it's also more fun.
I think a better solution is for the moderators to be meaner and step in early on, instead of saying "Oh, that person is my friend, so I'll let it slide for now and hope they make amends later."
If you still wanna stick with this idea, it might be better to get an idea of each character's intentions, alignments, etc whatever. Like who they think of as friends, what their goals are, their morals. Nothing specific, but .. hmm. Actually, I don't know where I'm going with that. Will edit if I get any mind implosions.
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Post by schrodinger on Jun 22, 2009 14:51:34 GMT 8
Yes, I do want to stick with this idea. As I said, it's the only way to make sure that people actually get the story moving somewhere. The freedom of the RP flow has not lead us to any spectacular heights at this point, and has resulted in many ILLEGAL MOVEZ being made. It's definitely a good idea to have each character's intentions and alignments openly stated somewhere other than the main story thread, which is what this thread aims to achieve. Relying on the moderators too much (all two of them) to intervene once shit has hit the fan in the story is not a good idea, because then awesome stuff like Mathus' Grand Theft Auto adventure happens. fantasiagensokyo.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=courier&action=display&thread=91
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Post by schrodinger on Jun 22, 2009 18:29:14 GMT 8
First actual discussion post, then.
There's definitely some shit hitting the fan at this point. See, the point of a discussion is to make it clear what is and isn't toeing the line, and properly identify what and where the line is. If you think that a character's hijinks are over the top and require moderation, moderate without disrupting the flow of the story. In other words, if editing is to be done, it should be accomplished through the use of the modify post button, not in-story Chekhov's gunmen.
Anything that is deemed against the rules and warrants hardline action like reports being filed and guardians being called into action should be addressed outside of the story first, and then edited appropriately by the player breaking the rules. Otherwise, there's going to be a lot of disruption in the story, which should be avoided.
PROTIP: you can avoid aforementioned disruption by airing views here.
So anyway, since I've been hijacking the story, I'm fine with going back and rewriting it such that it doesn't screw stuff up that badly. Whatever I've been doing isn't affecting the other characters yet, so changing it at this point won't cause disruptions to the story.
That, or you could let things continue as they are. I don't know where you're going to go with that, and I doubt it's going to end well.
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Post by NPC Controller on Jun 22, 2009 23:01:43 GMT 8
Hey, Chekhov's gunmen are fun. And I wasn't the one who came up with the idea, it was Ski.
The whole point is so that people don't have to modify posts. Who the hell does something then says "hey actually i didn't do that so yeah"? Keep moving, if something really happens then it happens. Chekhov's gunmen will step in when they have to.
Surprise me, I'm fine with the story moving in certain directions. Your actions do determine how the story flows after all. However, what you're currently doing, to take your abovementioned webcomic into consideration, is to stomp on the cabin, then say that the lady was not in at the moment and in fact drove her car away, and because of this the air force scrambled its fighters to shoot the t-rex to death.
In other words, doing what the moderators are supposed to do.
Read the reports, they describe what you've done wrong. Just watch that in future posts, what's been done remains done. For now I'm still pretty fine with where you're going but do take into account that manipulating non-player characters on your own accord and not using a NPC account is a serious no-no.
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Post by schrodinger on Jun 23, 2009 0:59:50 GMT 8
Ok, cool.
In other news, all characters in the Imperial base are going to get seriously screwed if they don't run away or find some way to survive a crazy guy in a plane (totally a terrorist). How do you all plan to not die? (A reliable source tells me that the bomb on the plane can be jettisoned before it reaches the base, because it's relatively far away. He also told me that Raine could save us all.)
What do you think we can do?
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Post by RaineScarlet on Jun 23, 2009 7:56:09 GMT 8
He also told me that Raine could save us all. Oh please, do tell. ;P
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Post by skiboydoggy on Jun 23, 2009 19:48:00 GMT 8
Sing the bomb to death! If I was half a dozen levels higher I could totally gravity rape the bomb, but as it stands, I want to see the ideas you people come up with. Since you know, my character is Level 1.
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Post by schrodinger on Jun 23, 2009 22:17:38 GMT 8
Ask the reliable source himself (it's the xiaomeimei), I don't know what he meant.
Meanwhile, as the NPC controllers seem hellbent on killing me (yeah, I see what you're doing there), I'll consider myself out of commission here, barring me pulling off what I need to, which seems unlikely considering abovementioned focus on killing me.
Or, you know, we learn to stop worrying and love the bomb. See what happens if it actually does drop.
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Post by skiboydoggy on Jun 24, 2009 3:41:24 GMT 8
She could... Freeze the bomb or something. Use water to buffer it, freeze it, lol.
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Post by schrodinger on Jun 24, 2009 4:02:10 GMT 8
Or the sniper on the grassy knoll (or rocky cliff) makes a shot to take out whatever's holding the bomb to the plane. I swear, if that's how all this pans out, it's going to be pretty anticlimatic.
Or heck, have a sniper in the base shoot it with a pewpewlazor. I don't know much about the bomb, but that can't be good for the plane.
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Post by Mathus on Jun 24, 2009 19:37:54 GMT 8
I have a plan..but I won't reveal it till later ^^
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Post by schrodinger on Jun 24, 2009 23:11:19 GMT 8
Yeah, that's pretty much defeating the point of a discussion.
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Post by Kim Kwan-Jang on Jun 24, 2009 23:32:34 GMT 8
My character is going to decide that humans are destroying the world so as to save the world, he's going to kill everyone in the RT.
Is that acceptable?
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Post by schrodinger on Jun 24, 2009 23:38:58 GMT 8
Probably, but you have to have a son first. And then you need to treat him like crap and showdown with him in the 26th episode.
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Post by Kim Kwan-Jang on Jun 24, 2009 23:42:42 GMT 8
Okay, so at the 8th episode, my character will bump into Kyouko, where she will become my character's waifu, then at the 10th episode we'll have a son, then my character will start treating him like crap.
Please prepare for this arc as soon as possible so the story can continue.
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Post by schrodinger on Jun 25, 2009 0:35:49 GMT 8
YOUR waifu? Bitch don't make me slap you
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Post by Kim Kwan-Jang on Jun 25, 2009 13:29:51 GMT 8
Okay, replace Kyouko with Venser then.
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Post by schrodinger on Jun 25, 2009 19:11:32 GMT 8
Not until you get the gahmen to repeal Resolution 377D. And guys can't have kids anyway. ):
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Post by skiboydoggy on Jun 25, 2009 21:27:10 GMT 8
So I read Gahmen and I was totally like "Ganmen? Repeal 377D?"
Now I have an image of the Dai-Gurren Dan overthrowing the PAP. Go you.
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Post by schrodinger on Jun 25, 2009 22:05:35 GMT 8
Well they need to make it legal for Simon and Kamina to get married, you see.
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Post by Kim Kwan-Jang on Jun 25, 2009 22:37:07 GMT 8
Not until you get the gahmen to repeal Resolution 377D. And guys can't have kids anyway. ): since when was venser a guy ._. edit: oh. nvm you can always retcon your char >:3
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Post by schrodinger on Jun 25, 2009 22:41:36 GMT 8
WHO THE HELL DO YOU THINK I AM?! (protip: it isn't the guy who plays a girl)
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Post by RaineScarlet on Jun 26, 2009 11:36:46 GMT 8
What a productive RP discussion this is. :>
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Post by schrodinger on Jun 26, 2009 11:58:49 GMT 8
Well, thread hijacking by lumin aside.
I'll try to back you up on freezing the bomb, and I can help ski get you in range if need be.
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